ReMix: Chrono Trigger 'Chronodyne Marine'
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- Game: Chrono Trigger (Square, 1995, SNES)
- ReMixer(s): ambient
- Composer(s): Nobuo Uematsu, Noriko Matsueda, Yasunori Mitsuda
- Song(s): Ocean Palace
- Posted: 2006-04-23, evaluated by the judges
Larry Oji beat me at arm wrestling. How I can continue to live my life and still look people in the eye is something I'll clearly be pondering for awhile; in the meantime, though, we've got ambient's latest, a texturally interesting electronica take on the Undersea Palace theme from CT. I might be crazy - none of the judges said anything - but at 0'52" I'm hearing a strong Terminator vibe going on with the drums, and I couldn't avoid thinking of intimidating robotic exoskeletons with thick Austrian accents. "Chronodyne" even sorta sounds like "Cyberdyne", so perhaps this is an intentional reference, but the ReMixer didn't indicate this in his submission email. This mix has an achilles' heel that the panel was essentially in consensus regarding, being the synth guitar solo, or rather the patch used for it, that enters at 1'09". Gray made the point that synth guitar itself can be utilized more effectively; I'd cite OCR01183 as one potential example:
"If you're going to use synth guitars, they need heavy processing to make them more pleasing. I think the sample here is fine personally. You'd be amazed what Japanese sequencers can do with guitar samples. So the question here isn't really the guitar sample in my opinion, it is how the sample is used/sequenced or the lack of technical skill to do so is also another factor. Which I should add is no easy feat anyway for most people. Solo guitar, sax, violin are probably the hardest, especially when exposed as a lead, as far as this aspect goes. "
I'd say that's pretty solid advice. Other than that, you've got a very atmospheric (esp. the intro - great stuff), slower electronica take on one of the more peculiar tracks from Trigger's soundrack, with a bit of John Connor on the drums, and an effective use of syncopation and sweeps/fx to create a cyber-aqua environment.
Discussion: Latest 15 comments/reviews; view the I assume the mix wasn't that simple to proceed, with all the fuzz & distortion.
It really exlhales the feeling of something powerful, and stay balanced till the end.
Overall it holds itself pretty well, even almost 3 years after being submitted. ;-)
Great remix.
- Dj Mokram on March 18, 2009
I dont think either he should´ve used real guitar sounds. Its obvious that the song doesnt use any real instruments, therefore i´m fine with the synthesized guitar sounds. I really enjoy the punching bassline, especially at 0:52 and 1:57. Just like djp mentioned in his description, Terminator-Theme ;)
This is another great (of many) song from around here i just cant get enough of :)
Cya, DJMadMax
- DJMadMax on March 18, 2009
- DragonFireKai on February 27, 2007
AlluZeli wrote:Geoffrey Taucer wrote: I pretty much agree with the judges on this one: it's listenable, even enjoyable, but could have been SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better with real guitars.
Said the Guitar player.
It's fine the way it is. It is a synth, it didn't need you to polish it up with your guitar skills.
I love the tuney feel to the mix to stay on topic :wink:
His comment was 100% On topic, so really, stfukthxbye =).
Now this mix. Very well done. Great job balancing out a lot of the thicker 'crunch' textures. As far as this guitar thing goes... it's just too raw. I wouldn't jump in to say "Use real guitars", but as the judges said, more processing would really help it out. ((Note that the judges never said to use a real guitar)). The overall sound of that lead just seemed too narrow and focused.
I enjoyed it... solid, just could use some fine tuning.
- Nex on June 12, 2006
it's noisy and obnoxious. sorry that synth guitar is not happening for me.
- jorgandar on May 26, 2006
- GoblinPie on May 9, 2006
- Citan on May 8, 2006
Geoffrey Taucer wrote: I pretty much agree with the judges on this one: it's listenable, even enjoyable, but could have been SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better with real guitars.
Said the Guitar player.
It's fine the way it is. It is a synth, it didn't need you to polish it up with your guitar skills.
I love the tuney feel to the mix to stay on topic :wink:
- Zaid on May 3, 2006
- Nobbynob Littlun on May 3, 2006
The John Connor feel is the special touch for this track. Although not with perfect soundquality (guitar) it's pretty fun to listen to. Isn't that what ultimately counts?
- NeoS on May 2, 2006
- The Nameless on April 29, 2006
COME WITH ME IF YOU WANT TO LIVE
- OverCoat on April 29, 2006
I've been a part of this game music community for around 7-10 years now and I've seen a lot of great masters of this arena come out of there and in those times - they've probably moved on to other things by now. There are so many japanese midi, etc websites out there, in addition to many of the older sequencers from Vgmusic.com (6-8 yrs ago).
There's of course a lot of non-game mixing communities out there too where I've heard a lot of remarkable stuff from, and usually they tend to be Japanese as well.
There must be something in the water out there. :lol:
- GrayLightning on April 28, 2006
Nice work.
- ubernym on April 26, 2006
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