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Heheh. Someone requested this a while back. Tell me what you think and what I can do to improve it. It doesn't sound very authentic yet... and I haven't worked a more than like 2 hours on it... and I'm aware of the dissonances and oddities a little here and there. Still trying to figure out if it's because I screwed up when I copied it down ear-to-midi or if it's because of the bassline or the melody I added.

So, suggestions on how to make this more elevator music-like?

http://phytrepighlet.googlepages.com/zeldafile.mp3

EDIT: I've edited the volume levels a little and changed the way the guitar plays. Still need a better guitar sound. And to fix the dissonances.

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- The song doesn't really go anywhere. It's 2:17 of the same... and then it fades out. I would say you need to work on creating a distinctive beginning, middle, and end. There needs to be some sort of climax.

It wouldn't be elevator music if it actualy went somewhere. It would be nice for it to atleast have an end though. I think giveing it a climax would ruin the elevator music part of it though.

Anyway on the song, uh the cheesyness burns...

As far as being like elevator music goes, it fits the bill pretty nicely.

I also think the flute does fine with this peice, the woodblock could probably be quieter though, it seems to stick out like a sore thumb.

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It's not that it's not what they're looking for, I don't think, it just isn't good enough. Me and the judges panel set the bar rather differently, that's all. :) Until I start demanding the same level of quality from my mixes as they do, I can't make something that they'd consider good enough. It's too bad VGMix is taking so long - sometimes you would find very nice mixes there that had some quality issues which made them unfit for OCR, but that I enjoyed listening to all the same.

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Thasauce is probably where my mixes will end up, if I ever start finishing them. You don't really get the same kind of exposure though - I would guess most people who have mixes there would prefer to have them on OCR if they could choose. This is where the community is, where the big guys play ball, you know? VGMix has some truly incredible mixes, the likes of which I can't find here, but they also have some really bad ones.

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You know, one of the things he told me was "get better samples". And that's what the other judges told me, when I asked them about another mix I was working on, too... I'm using Reason - which is pretty expensive software. If their samples aren't good enough, well... I'm gonna have to live with not having good enough samples. I'm not buying some $1,000 sample pack just to get my stuff on OCR ;) Of course, even I can say these samples aren't excellent, but they certainly don't make my ears sore either. It would be interesting to submit it just to see what else they have to say, but I'd feel silly submitting something that even I didn't expect to pass. That would just be wasting their time. Also, the song isn't even half-finished yet.

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"Get better samples" is one of those generic comments like... "the synths sound generic." It probably has more to do with HOW you're using the samples, what effects are on them, how you write the parts and use different articulations/velocity layers/etc., than the samples themselves. And Reason's included library is pretty decent, so...

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I use Reason too, and one thing that may help you is to tweak your samples some as far at the attack, delay, etc. You may not necessarilly need a brand new sample (IMO reason has some nice ones to start with) as much as editing the samples to a quality suitable for your mix. In my current mix, the people i showed this to all said quality was an issue until I tweaked a few of my subtractor devices........what devices have u been using?

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Er... I used pretty much every one of the devices... I understand that my samples could be used better, I just disliked "get better samples". I just really, really, really suck at production. I haven't a clue about anything regarding mastering, mixing, balancing, equalizing and all that. All I hear is "this sounds good" and "this sounds bad". I can never put my finger on what should be done to improve things. But even I agree this song is unpolished. The thing is, even if I was happy with it, I doubt it would be up to their standards. Heh.

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Believe me man, I know exactly how u feel. I just found out what panning was like a week ago, lol. And I do agree that the standards on here have gotten really, really, really high, but that doesnt mean you wont get there. Your mix already has creativity and fluidity, which puts you a cut above most remixes that get submitted. If EQing and samples are your main issues, u dont have too far to go to make this OC material : ) Just try and get as much feedback as you can so you'll know what to do to get this on the front page.

And I use Reason 3.0 too. If you need any advice on some of its functions/effects, Im LightningRT on AIM.

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You know, one of the things he told me was "get better samples". And that's what the other judges told me, when I asked them about another mix I was working on, too... I'm using Reason - which is pretty expensive software. If their samples aren't good enough, well... I'm gonna have to live with not having good enough samples. I'm not buying some $1,000 sample pack just to get my stuff on OCR ;) Of course, even I can say these samples aren't excellent, but they certainly don't make my ears sore either. It would be interesting to submit it just to see what else they have to say, but I'd feel silly submitting something that even I didn't expect to pass. That would just be wasting their time. Also, the song isn't even half-finished yet.

Oh please, don't use the can't-afford-samples argument. That's such a cop out. I use free sounds almost exclusively. :roll:

And my biggest problem was with your approach to the piece. I dislike it when people are so quick to write off certain kinds of music as "elevator music," especially bossa nova and certain kinds of smooth jazz. The ideas you have are good, but like I said before, don't pigeonhole yourself into vapidity just to fit some ill-defined concept like "elevator music." Expand, explore, and adapt. Good genre adaptations have always been welcomed at OCR.

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