What did Santa get you? (Remixing Version!)

[Argitoth]

I get:

http://www.steinberg.fr/products/sl3/sl3packshot.jpg

Welp... it's kind of strange that when I import a wav it never plays back at the right speed even if the tempo of the wav is the same tempo Cubase is set to. :?

TIME FOR MANJUUL.

Edit: Oh yeah. And now that I have Cubase I now officially consider myself part of the whole group of musicians who use PRO software like VSTs and hosts and all that good terminology. or something. 8)

[Yoozer]

it's kind of strange that when I import a wav it never plays back at the right speed even if the tempo of the wav is the same tempo Cubase is set to. :?

Check your samplerates, sir.


Edit: Oh yeah. And now that I have Cubase I now officially consider myself part of the whole group of musicians who use PRO software like VSTs and hosts and all that good terminology. or something. 8)
Yeah, but where's your controller and your ASIO-soundcard and your Zirconium Badge Of Honor?

I got this.

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/5366/midisport2x2angle8a90ddb5bfb46.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Mainly because Christmas here isn't for the gifts (we've got Sinterklaas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinterklaas) for that).

It's my third MIDI interface but at least I'll have my Nord Micromodular separated from the rest :).

[Argitoth]

oh haha, I forgot to mention...

I AM UNINSTALLING MY PIRATED VERSION OF CUBASE SX AS WE SPEAK! :lol: woot

[zircon]

I got Liquid Instruments Series: Bass. I also was supposed to get SoundLab Drum Fundamentals but SoundsOnline forgot to tell me it was backordered. Idiots. :/

[Theowne]

The only music related thing was from my girlfriend who I had spent endless hours complaining to about my lack of music tools (a USB MIDI interface was amongst them)

So, I got this:

http://www.m-audio.com/images/global/product_pics/big/uno.jpg

Of course, I would have preferred the one Yoozer posted above, but hey, you can't hint at everything!

Well, actually, I also bought myself a tabla set (http://www.buckinghammusic.com/tabla/images/smldl.jpg) but that doesn't really count.

[Argitoth]

Well, actually, I also bought myself a tabla set (http://www.buckinghammusic.com/tabla/images/smldl.jpg) but that doesn't really count.

Hell yes it does! Give us a demo!

[Theowne]

Well, actually, I also bought myself a tabla set (http://www.buckinghammusic.com/tabla/images/smldl.jpg) but that doesn't really count.

Hell yes it does! Give us a demo!

If I get a mic anytime soon, you'll be the first to hear it :wink:

It's actually #3 in my collection of Indian percussion. I love Indian percussion. So nice.

[myf]

I don't celebrate christmas...soo...nothing, really.

But i might treat myself to something or other sometime soon. Maybe a EMU0404

[Theowne]

I actually don't celebrate Christmas either, but hey, when in Rome.......

But i might treat myself to something or other sometime soon. Maybe a EMU0404

What do you have now?

[OverCoat]

You got a Midisport 2x2, Yoozer? I like mine :P

I probably won't be getting anything musical, save for a novel called "Accordion Crimes"

ha ha ha

[Xelebes]

I'm thinking of treating myself later. Not now, I'm waiting for the stores to get restocked in the new year.

[Compyfox]

Edit: Oh yeah. And now that I have Cubase I now officially consider myself part of the whole group of musicians who use PRO software like VSTs and hosts and all that good terminology. or something. 8)

Good, if you have questions regarding Cubase, you know their boards. And does that mean you only bugged us with hacked software so far? Glad that I didn't answer one of your single questions.

Happy holidays anyway.



What I got for X-Mas?
- Rayzoon Jamstix (beginning of december)
- a mp3 stick (cause my selfsoldered cables for my cellphone were busted, and I'm not in the mood building a new one)

"Quiet days" aren't over in out family yet. Chances are I still get a 100-150 Euro budget for new samples (I pay the rest if needed, but I have an eye on a certain orchestra package...)


And yeah, I guess I'll celebrate x-mas and birthday alltogether while building an own synthesizer:
- MIDIbox SID
or
- MIDIbox FM (planned for summer)

You can read more about that in the Make your own chiptunes (http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=72930) thread, or dig out the old NES sound Emulator (http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=60714) thread.

[Skrypnyk]

I got FL6....as sort of an early Christmas gift.



...for myself.


I plan on getting a bunch of Trilogy and an Edriol PCR-80 later this week...well, ordering it.

Should come later in Jan.

[realpolitik]

SPROING-GOING-GOING-GOING

http://media.zzounds.com/media/brand,zzounds/E-MU1820M_shot-ad4d12e1d155beb32d67d11585c0eac8.jpg



Coming soon, I'm effing stoked :)

[DDRage]

I got some money to help me buy my new baby

http://world.casio.com/latin/emi/piano/privia/images/px110dk/px110dk_01.jpg
http://world.casio.com/latin/emi/piano/privia/images/px110dk/px110dk_02.jpg
:D :D CASIO PRIVIA PX-110 DK w/stand :D :D

[tgfoo]

Unfortunately, Santa didn't bring me anything related to making music... but hopefully with the job I have between the semesters, I can buy something... though I'm not really sure what would get...

[The Final Minuet]

Same here, but I got some money that could be used for a little something here and there...as in new headphones and a book or two.

[Legion303]

Nothing directly, but I did get some early Christmas presents that I needed for various projects and my wife was kind enough to give me the green-light on:

Shure SM-57 mic and stand
Behringer MIC200 preamp

And I got my wife a 512MB MP3 player (among other things, but that's the musical thing).

-steve

[Argitoth]

ONLY 512!?!?!? come onnn maaaaan :(

Edit: By the way, looks at my post number. It's almost 1234.

[tgfoo]

oh wait, I forgot to mention that my mom did buy me an upright bass. It hasn't come in yet though... but hopefully in the next couple days...

[sgx]

Behringer Ub1202 Mixer
Shure SM57 mic
Sony MDR 7506 headphones
Dimension Pro upgrade(didn't think I'd get that too...I lucked out this year)


And my dog jumped on my laptop (that I do my music on) and busted the LCD :? I might be able to get it fixed for free though.

[myf]

oh wait, I forgot to mention that my mom did buy me an upright bass. It hasn't come in yet though... but hopefully in the next couple days...

awesome!

[Argitoth]

ONLY 512!?!?!? come onnn maaaaan

Oh, I should have mentioned that my sister got 30gig ipod (with video). Heheh. That's 60 times more space that 512 :D :D :D

[OverCoat]

ONLY 512!?!?!? come onnn maaaaan

Oh, I should have mentioned that my sister got 30gig ipod (with video). Heheh. That's 60 times more space that 512 :D :D :D

"Look, son, it's an asshole!"

"Yay!"

[Legion303]

ONLY 512!?!?!? come onnn maaaaan

Oh, I should have mentioned that my sister got 30gig ipod (with video). Heheh. That's 60 times more space that 512 :D :D :D

LOL kewlio!@!@!

In the real world, that $300 I could have spent on a video ipod my wife wouldn't use except for the mp3 functionality (and she doesn't have the 7,000 mp3s it supposedly holds) is going to replace our car that may not start up again after the short trip to my mom's on Xmas night. In fact, that $300 ipod was just about our entire Christmas budget, but I guess you won't learn that spending time with a wife and son is more enjoyable than spending lots of money on things until you no longer rely on your parents to provide basic needs.

-steve

[V___]

For an early christmas gift i got... A Behringer BCF2000 Mixer! I got it like 3 weeks ago, but i'm still stoked....

And on the 22nd, i got my brand new laptop (1.8ghz PentM, 1 gig Ram, DVD/R, 80gig HD), for the sole purpose of cafe/park music work (inspiring!!) so now i just needa get some nice little midi keyboard/controller.

Both purchased by mee, cos no one i know in person even knows about my music habits, which makes it hard to get things i want... ah well, i got some cool uhh... puzzles...

EDIT: my mp3 players a 512 too, thats plenty enough imo... i mean, thats an average of like 5-6 hours of music?

[speculative]

Santa brought me some $ which I can convert into music. Just don't know what I want to do with it yet. For the price of a workstation, I could instead upgrade my PC and buy a lot of software/interfaces. Just can't decide yet.

Ok - finally decided on a midi controller - this is just too good to pass up. If they ever make a 76-key version, I will get one and replace it. Just have to find one in stock somewhere: http://www.music123.com/Novation-ReMOTE-61-SL--i318508.music

Edit: in order to stave off buying a whole new A64 PC, I upgrade my video card to an ATI X850 XT AGP version. Should be here Thursday. 8)

[Argitoth]

ONLY 512!?!?!? come onnn maaaaan

Oh, I should have mentioned that my sister got 30gig ipod (with video). Heheh. That's 60 times more space that 512 :D :D :D

LOL kewlio!@!@!

In the real world, that $300 I could have spent on a video ipod my wife wouldn't use except for the mp3 functionality (and she doesn't have the 7,000 mp3s it supposedly holds) is going to replace our car that may not start up again after the short trip to my mom's on Xmas night. In fact, that $300 ipod was just about our entire Christmas budget, but I guess you won't learn that spending time with a wife and son is more enjoyable than spending lots of money on things until you no longer rely on your parents to provide basic needs.

-steve

I think a video ipod is a waste of money. Don't take what I say too personally.

[New You]

I got a microKORG (bewy, bewy nice) and a pair of Sennheiser HD 215 headphones that have a left earcup that rotates up for one-ear-listening-DJ-work-type-stuff (a joke of sorts, as I do nothing of the sort). Nonetheless, they're really nice headphones. And the microKORG is awesome, but that went without saying.

[griffith9]

I'm getting myself a small piano(still thinking),electric guitar(I've only rented once) and a arranging project(that I'm working on) to.. make up for Christmas..


didn't get anything, but I got a small gig on Christmas, so yeah..

I would actually buy those MIDI interface.. thingies but I have no clue how to use them, so hopefully this year, I can figure something out.

[Tyler Heath]

ONLY 512!?!?!? come onnn maaaaan

Oh, I should have mentioned that my sister got 30gig ipod (with video). Heheh. That's 60 times more space that 512 :D :D :D

LOL kewlio!@!@!

In the real world, that $300 I could have spent on a video ipod my wife wouldn't use except for the mp3 functionality (and she doesn't have the 7,000 mp3s it supposedly holds) is going to replace our car that may not start up again after the short trip to my mom's on Xmas night. In fact, that $300 ipod was just about our entire Christmas budget, but I guess you won't learn that spending time with a wife and son is more enjoyable than spending lots of money on things until you no longer rely on your parents to provide basic needs.

-steve

I think a video ipod is a waste of money. Don't take what I say too personally.

you could, in theory, just stop being such a retard.

in other news, I got an ipod mini (cool), a new boss tremolo pedal (cool), and a leather jacket (which was unexpected).

I think it goes without saying that this was a pretty good Christmas for me.

[RoeTaKa]

I didn't get anything music related for christmas, eh, if I did that would just be a day of work :P but now is the time I'm planning to buy new gear, a christmas treat for myself :D

I'm thinking of picking up East West's Colossus library, and perhaps something like Stylus RMX or Garritan Stradivari since I love violin. New/Another Ram card, just can't hack it with 512mb, so harsh! I might upgrade to FL6 but since I never really used the additional features of the sequencer, I'm quite contempt with what I have. Plus new sound system and headphone, a must!

Yeah that's how I'm gonna treat myself :roll: spend lots of money on sounds...woo. This year shall be interesting in deed!

[Compyfox]

You all must have some serious money (which I don't have). Collossus is 900bucks at least!

[Geoffrey Taucer]

I got a Seymore Duncan SFX-02 Tweak Fuzz pedal for my guitar. 'Tis l33t

[Argitoth]

hey i got absynth 1 before december was over. does that count?

[zircon]

You all must have some serious money (which I don't have). Collossus is 900bucks at least!

I think it's down to a (relatively reasonable) $700 now.. not too bad.

[Compyfox]

Still money I can't bring up.

[chokst~1.bat]

Still money I can't bring up.
I have the opposite problem. I keep working and getting more and more money, and have no idea what to do with it. I'm already happy with what I have.

[Theowne]

I have the opposite problem. I keep working and getting more and more money, and have no idea what to do with it.

Stuff it all in bag and give it to me. We're both in Canada, can't be that hard :wink:

[Hy Bound]

I have the opposite problem. I keep working and getting more and more money, and have no idea what to do with it.

Stuff it all in bag and give it to me. We're both in Canada, can't be that hard :wink:

Yeah, same here! :D Except for the Canada part...

I happened to get Ableton Live 5.0 AND EWQLSO Gold! They both kick ass, even though I had to pay half of the EWQLSO... 'Twas expensive. Hopefully going to make my first OCRemix with them... (along with my other stuff)

[RoeTaKa]

You all must have some serious money (which I don't have). Collossus is 900bucks at least!

I think it's down to a (relatively reasonable) $700 now.. not too bad.

I've just been searching sites with the best price, I've found Colossus for £350, which is pretty much $700, which I thought was good.

My money is just mine I saved up working part time over the last year, occasionally dipping in to it now and then. So quit ya whining and save your money haha.

[Argle]

Remix-wise? Not a damn thing. :D

[Cerrax]

Nothing.... :evil:

But my birthday is soon *dreams of Logic 7 and Quantum Leap Silver Orchestra Library...... :( *

[Compyfox]

EWQLSO is overrated, sorry.

[zircon]

QLSO is absolutely awesome, considering it's $140. :)

[Cerrax]

Yeah, sorry. I'm only 19 and its hard enough paying the bills never mind getting $700 sound libraries. EWQLSO will do fine for me. I'm using Garage Band and Music Generator and I can't afford to shell out more than $200 for some decent sound. I don't even have speakers for my computer. I have it runing through my stereo reciever to a couple of giant JBL's from '72. The only thing I have that's actually worthy is my G5 and there aren't a lot of cheap programs for OS X. Reason 3 would be my dream come true, but for now I'm just hoping that my family will just give me money for my birthday so I can get Logic 7 Express.

[Tyler Heath]

so I'm starting to wonder if maybe some people on this site might be losing their perspective.

some people do this kind of thing as a hobby/amaeture kind of thing, and when new folks come asking how to make their music sound better a lot of the answers are almost immediate jumps to "well you'll probably want _____", followed closely by "_____ isn't very good, you want THIS _____".

not everyone's looking at doing this professionally.

also, to zirc and compy in particular (although not necessarily isolated to pertain to this thread) - yes, we know you are good at what you do, and yes, we appreciate what you come up with, but that doesn't really give you a right to be pretentious jerks to people "beneath you."

just a heads up.

[zircon]

so I'm starting to wonder if maybe some people on this site might be losing their perspective.

some people do this kind of thing as a hobby/amaeture kind of thing, and when new folks come asking how to make their music sound better a lot of the answers are almost immediate jumps to "well you'll probably want _____", followed closely by "_____ isn't very good, you want THIS _____".

not everyone's looking at doing this professionally.

also, to zirc and compy in particular (although not necessarily isolated to pertain to this thread) - yes, we know you are good at what you do, and yes, we appreciate what you come up with, but that doesn't really give you a right to be pretentious jerks to people "beneath you."

just a heads up.

I don't know what that has to do with this particular thread. I rarely if ever recommend expensive stuff - I get emails asking for "where to get started" constantly and I list a great number of things for any budget range, from FREE to thousands of dollars. As far as I'm aware, no one has complained about my recommendations, especially since they're usually asked for to begin with. I really have no idea what you're talking about.

In general, it's a better idea to respond to specific posts and points that you disagree with rather than making a very broad, generalized one like you just did. It's difficult to respond to because we (the people that you're targetting) may not know what you have in mind. This is a free forum, you're more than welcome to disagree with anything me, compyfox, or anything else posts.

Edit: I just realized you may be referencing the QLSO Silver post I made a few hours ago, and I think you may have misunderstood it. It was poorly worded; it SHOULD have read;

"QLSO is absolutely awesome considering the price."

I honestly have no idea why I said "you get what you pay for". That was a mistake and the opposite of what I meant to write.

[GrayLightning]

I don't see where compy and zircon are being pretentious jerks. Just because they slighted silver in a little manner? I do agree with the generalized opinion of "well you'll probably want _____", followed closely by "_____ isn't very good, you want THIS _____". Too many people are caught up in buy this, buy that, use this, use that mentality. But I don't see what relationship this has at all to do with what zircon and compy said. There are other ways of spending $150. What's the big deal?

[Cerrax]

so I'm starting to wonder if maybe some people on this site might be losing their perspective.

some people do this kind of thing as a hobby/amaeture kind of thing, and when new folks come asking how to make their music sound better a lot of the answers are almost immediate jumps to "well you'll probably want _____", followed closely by "_____ isn't very good, you want THIS _____".

not everyone's looking at doing this professionally.

also, to zirc and compy in particular (although not necessarily isolated to pertain to this thread) - yes, we know you are good at what you do, and yes, we appreciate what you come up with, but that doesn't really give you a right to be pretentious jerks to people "beneath you."

just a heads up.

Amen.

And don't forget something I have read and heard numerous times form people on this site:

Don't presume that all you need to make music like Aphex Twin is the same gear as him. Rembrandt wasn't a great artist just because he had access to paint!

Sometimes I find that people focus too much on the sound instead of the actual arrangement. The reason we love video game music in the first place is because of the arrangement, not the sound!

[Zoola]

Anyways, back on subject...
I got a haul.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/Zoola/IMG_4306.jpg

[tgfoo]

A harmonica... nice.

[Argitoth]

ZOOLA, Cubase SL? I got that too for Christmas. Hit me up on any questions you got.

[Compyfox]

As if you know the physics and all secrets of Cubase already. Thanks Argi... you just made my day.

[hazardous]

Well, uh....I got some money which I plan on using to buy one of these (http://www.korg.com/gear/prod_info.asp?a_prod_no=EMX1&category_id=2).

[Argitoth]

As if you know the physics and all secrets of Cubase already. Thanks Argi... you just made my day.

I know all about routing, inserts, sends, busses, FX groups, I know all about the mixer, I know how to create macros, i've read the preferences help file completely through. I created my perfect starting template copmplete with locked workspace and markers, I know how the pool works and the wav editing tools and then of course I know all the little detailed things like drum mapping and drum tracks, custom quantization, rewire, etc.

Basically, I know the basics.

[Xelebes]

I don't see where compy and zircon are being pretentious jerks. Just because they slighted silver in a little manner? I do agree with the generalized opinion of "well you'll probably want _____", followed closely by "_____ isn't very good, you want THIS _____". Too many people are caught up in buy this, buy that, use this, use that mentality. But I don't see what relationship this has at all to do with what zircon and compy said. There are other ways of spending $150. What's the big deal?

Ah yes, the Saxman Disorder.

[Zoola]

As if you know the physics and all secrets of Cubase already. Thanks Argi... you just made my day.

I know all about routing, inserts, sends, busses, FX groups, I know all about the mixer, I know how to create macros, i've read the preferences help file completely through. I created my perfect starting template copmplete with locked workspace and markers, I know how the pool works and the wav editing tools and then of course I know all the little detailed things like drum mapping and drum tracks, custom quantization, rewire, etc.

Basically, I know the basics.
That is all in the getting started manual. I'm good.

[Compyfox]

OMG! THE WORLD ENDS! ARGITOTH KNOWS HOW TO USE CUBASE (and will maybe teach others).

[Argitoth]

OMG! THE WORLD ENDS! ARGITOTH KNOWS HOW TO USE CUBASE (and will maybe teach others).

My friend, all you are doing is boosting my ego. For you to compliment my knowledge was previously unheard. 8)

[tgfoo]

As if you know the physics and all secrets of Cubase already. Thanks Argi... you just made my day.

I know all about routing, inserts, sends, busses, FX groups, I know all about the mixer, I know how to create macros, i've read the preferences help file completely through. I created my perfect starting template copmplete with locked workspace and markers, I know how the pool works and the wav editing tools and then of course I know all the little detailed things like drum mapping and drum tracks, custom quantization, rewire, etc.

Basically, I know the basics.
That is all in the getting started manual. I'm good.

I'm sorry, but for whatever reason, this just made me bust out laughing...

[Zoola]

As if you know the physics and all secrets of Cubase already. Thanks Argi... you just made my day.

I know all about routing, inserts, sends, busses, FX groups, I know all about the mixer, I know how to create macros, i've read the preferences help file completely through. I created my perfect starting template copmplete with locked workspace and markers, I know how the pool works and the wav editing tools and then of course I know all the little detailed things like drum mapping and drum tracks, custom quantization, rewire, etc.

Basically, I know the basics.
That is all in the getting started manual. I'm good.

I'm sorry, but for whatever reason, this just made me bust out laughing...
:)!!

[GrayLightning]

OMG! THE WORLD ENDS! ARGITOTH KNOWS HOW TO USE CUBASE (and will maybe teach others).

My friend, all you are doing is boosting my ego. For you to compliment my knowledge was previously unheard. 8)

He was being sarcastic. Don't let your ego get too inflated just yet. :lol:

[Yoozer]

some people do this kind of thing as a hobby/amaeture kind of thing, and when new folks come asking how to make their music sound better a lot of the answers are almost immediate jumps to "well you'll probably want _____", followed closely by "_____ isn't very good, you want THIS _____".

Seeing what the generic available budget and age is and their generic cluelessness on the matter (HAY GUYS I WANT TO REMIX WHATS THE BEST SOFTWARE) they should get the best they can get for the budget.

not everyone's looking at doing this professionally.
Of course not. But the basic tools you need simply start at a certain amount of money. You can make a hammer out of an end of lead pipe, some wire and a rock or you can buy the cheapest one at the store - guess which'll enable you drive down nails better.

An E-mu 0404 or an Audiophile 24/96 is not professional. It's not even semi-professional. It's simply an adequate starting point and several orders of magnitude better especially for the price than most gaming soundcards that will only listen to your whims if you install alternative drivers or suffer from latencies.

Making music is serious business and the costs of these things vs what they can do is so much lower than they used to be say, 10 years ago - you just can't imagine it.

FL Studio is a program that some would indeed not call professional; but that's not true; it's more aimed at the fact that the majority of users are not making music professionally (e.g. for their living). Yet it's the bare bones and it enables you do to much, much more than say, Magix Music maker or Garageband, or basically any DOS tracker.

Again, the basic version of it it comes for a price and offers possibilities unheard of a decade ago.

Would it be elitism or snobbery or "hey, I'm not making music professionally" to direct someone to a tool that is too limited, too constraining in such a way that it discourages people from ever venturing further?

Because pretty much any hobby you have will demand you to learn, to grow in skill, to educate yourself on certain matters.

I personally do not like the idea of feeding people shit and keeping them in the dark. Pretty much nothing's for free. I'd rather discourage them by saying they need to invest a minimum of effort or cash in something rather than to let themselves discourage them because the stuff they have simply does not work with them or does not do what they want.

Creativity, professional or not, needs a way out. If you block that way with shitty applications or shitty gear, it becomes much harder to get rid of than a mere financial barrier.

yes, we know you are good at what you do, and yes, we appreciate what you come up with, but that doesn't really give you a right to be pretentious jerks to people "beneath you."
Wow, that is completely out of the left field. I can imagine some of Compy's replies are a bit cut short, but Zircon - pretentious?

What bizarro world were you reading posts in?

Also, you forgot me. If there's anyone a pretentious jerk to anyone, it's me. Don't settle for less, do not accept substitutes, and ask for the leading brand. Yoozer. Pretentious Jerk since 1978. "Fuck you, I'm better than everyone™".

:wink:

[Argitoth]

He was being sarcastic. Don't let your ego get too inflated just yet. :lol:
Of course he was being sarcastic, but the part "argitoth knows how to use cubase" was infact not the sarcastic part. The sarcastic part was "the world ends"

:)

I hope this thread isn't locked for OT, it is an interesting thread. Yoozer, Unknown, calm down a bit!

[Zoola]

Uh... I also got an OCR T-Shirt!

(trying to get this thing back on topic)

[Argitoth]

Uh... I also got an OCR T-Shirt!

(trying to get this thing back on topic)

UMM!!! BAN FOR OFF TOPIC! THIS IS REMIXING ONLY THREAD!!! WAT TEH DEAL IS WITH SHIRTS? THATS NOT MUSIC

[Compyfox]

He was being sarcastic. Don't let your ego get too inflated just yet. :lol:
Of course he was being sarcastic, but the part "argitoth knows how to use cubase" was infact not the sarcastic part. The sarcastic part was "the world ends"

I meant that all in an sarcastic way - sorry to dissapoint you. Reading the "basics manual" and then you say you "know" Cubase is a joke!

Produce something "good" with it, then we talk further.

Enough for the flames now.

[OverCoat]

this has been way overblown, and is definately not a big enough deal to continue talking about.

Unknown's comment stemmed from the recent GPO vs. EWQLSO thread [which was locked] that contained plenty of elitism wankery and blind corporate allegiance from everyone involved in that topic. I'd say he had legitimate concerns, otherwise he wouldn't have posted that.

[Arcana]

HI!

I hauled in nothing related to music, although I did buy myself "Advanced Logic Pro 7" back in October and haven't even opened it yet. :(

I need to open the music applications again. Any words of advice for a newly-born newb? :)

I did get a toaster oven and a vacuum cleaner, though.

[Argitoth]

:evil: http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=25622

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heheheh

[Compyfox]

Now argitoth even mutated into a moderator. Wow!

[Tyler Heath]

seriously arg, stop hijacking the thread. you're annoying enough when you're not intending to be, so when you really try it really shows.

[Argle]

seriously arg, stop hijacking the thread.

Sorry. :(


lolz

[Arcana]

:evil: http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=25622

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heheheh

That was totally not funny.

[Tyler Heath]

hahah arglebargle, not you (which I assume you understood).

the other, more obnoxious, arg.

[Argle]

;)

[Vyse of Arcadia]

I got a mandolin. I suppose that could be considered remixing gear? Anyway, it's an awesome instrument. Very fun.

[Zoola]

That's totally cool. I almost bought one a while ago, if I find a cheap one I'll go for it (I also got $50 bucks)

[-RK-]

I got a mandolin. I suppose that could be considered remixing gear? Anyway, it's an awesome instrument. Very fun.

If it's musical it's "remixing" gear. :wink:

[Argitoth]

I DIDN'T REALIZE IT TILL NOW... I can buy Absynth upgrade for $19 at NI website because I purchased Absynth 1 within the grace period.

I got Absynth 1 on eBay for $43 (including shipping). I am getting the upgrade for $23 (including shipping). That means I have payed a total $66 for Absynth 3.

THAT IS DIRT CHEAP!!! 8)

I tell you my plan is working.

[zircon]

It's cool that you got it for that low, but it's not really anything new. People have been buying old versions and using cheaper upgrade plans for awhile now.

[Vyse of Arcadia]

What I want to know is why I never thought of that.

[Argitoth]

People have been buying old versions and using cheaper upgrade plans for awhile now.
Yes, and this is my plan, but I didn't realize until yesterday that I could get the upgrade for $19. I was very close to buying it for $100 from a reseller.

What I want to know is why I never thought of that.
If you have an income then you aren't poor enough like me to think for days about buying something. But actually most soft synths aren't so popular that people will be selling them on e-bay. Like Octopus sounds amazing when I listened to the demo, but no one will be selling that on e-bay. I think it's a downloaded package. You would have to go to KVR and go to the trading forum and wait... and wait... and then when it strays away from its pack just a little... POUNCE!!!!! AND RIP IT APART AND EAT IT!.. 8O

[Compyfox]

I'm preaching "get stuff used" for years now on OCR. Now Argi acts like it's some kind of "holy grail".

Fascinating *raises eyebrow*

[Vyse of Arcadia]

If you have an income then you aren't poor enough like me to think for days about buying something. But actually most soft synths aren't so popular that people will be selling them on e-bay. Like Octopus sounds amazing when I listened to the demo, but no one will be selling that on e-bay. I think it's a downloaded package. You would have to go to KVR and go to the trading forum and wait... and wait... and then when it strays away from its pack just a little... POUNCE!!!!! AND RIP IT APART AND EAT IT!.. 8O

No, see, my problem is I can't afford it, then I realize I can't afford it, then I go looking for an open-source alternative instead of trying to find a way to afford it.

[sgx]

I DIDN'T REALIZE IT TILL NOW... I can buy Absynth upgrade for $19 at NI website because I purchased Absynth 1 within the grace period.

I got Absynth 1 on eBay for $43 (including shipping). I am getting the upgrade for $23 (including shipping). That means I have payed a total $66 for Absynth 3.

THAT IS DIRT CHEAP!!! 8)

I tell you my plan is working.

Did you get it? I don't think a used purchase will count with NI as a new purchase. It's a liscense transfer. Won't you have to register the serial and then they'll check their records? Seems unlikely to me that you'll get that deal.

[Argitoth]

Did you get it? I don't think a used purchase will count with NI as a new purchase. It's a liscense transfer. Won't you have to register the serial and then they'll check their records? Seems unlikely to me that you'll get that deal.

Well, I already paid for the upgrade with a credit card. I'm not sure what you are saying though. A liscense transfer is not the same as simply giving an unregistered product to someone else. Anyway, it is highly unlikely NI is going to all of a sudden say, "Here's your money back, we can't send you the product." I already got the e-mail saying "your order is in blabla you will get the product in 7 days BLA." which is coincidentally also the amount of time I have to live... see cause I got a phone call yesterday, something about 7 days.

..lame joke :P

[Argitoth]

well im flabbergasted. I got an e-mail from NI basically saying "sorry, you can't do that"

damnit. The upgrade will be $80. Oh well, that means I got absynth 3 for $123. $3 over my goal. :x

Why isn't there a "slap forehead" emoticon?

[Skrypnyk]

Personally, I would look into buying hardware used, and software at factory direct prices. Software is pretty easy to manipulate, have the CD's scratch, forget a reg. number and all that stuff, while hardware all that can go wrong is not having a power supply, or a knob is broken.

Though, personally, I've yet to buy anything used =\ . All the stuff came new or was given to me by my dad.

Getting back to the topic, I've gotten Edirol PCR-80, StylusRMX and Trilogy =D .

[Zoola]

Personally, I would look into buying hardware used, and software at factory direct prices. Software is pretty easy to manipulate, have the CD's scratch, forget a reg. number and all that stuff, while hardware all that can go wrong is not having a power supply, or a knob is broken.
Not to mention the money is given to the developer for them to make more wonderful products.

[Argitoth]

The worst that can happen with software is losing the registration before you register it. Scratching the CD, losing the key... it won't matter... well scratching the CD might be a problem but there are ways around it. I actually lost my Diablo II CD key long ago in a galaxy far far away. I do have an extra Starcraft CD key because I ended up buying two copies. One for Starcraft when the price was $50 and another when it came with the expansion for $20

ANYONE WANNA TRADE? My starcraft for your diablo II? :P

[Tyler Heath]

hi! my name's the remixing forum! you can use me to ask and answer all sorts of questions related to making music, music equipment, and songwriting techniques. however, I'm not a good place for anything else, like cd key requests!


ok good - now that you two are familiar with each other, we can continue.

[Argle]

lol, I actually feel kinda sorry for Argitoth, for all the crap he gets. :lol:

[Compyfox]

lol, I actually feel almost kinda sorry for Argitoth, for all the crap he gets. :lol:

Fixed.

[Zoola]

lol, I don't feel sorry for Argitoth, for all the crap he gets. :lol:

Fixed.
Version 2.

[Theowne]

You guys are meanies!!!

[Rellik]

Personally, I would look into buying hardware used, and software at factory direct prices. Software is pretty easy to manipulate, have the CD's scratch, forget a reg. number and all that stuff, while hardware all that can go wrong is not having a power supply, or a knob is broken.

Though, personally, I've yet to buy anything used =\ . All the stuff came new or was given to me by my dad.

Getting back to the topic, I've gotten Edirol PCR-80, StylusRMX and Trilogy =D .

Hey, now there's another PCR-80 owner! (aside from the ubiquitous PCR-30 owners)

Is that the PCR-M80 or just the PCR-80? PCR is definitely the most cost effective option for a 61-key MIDI controller, IMHO, so you made the right choice :D

But, you might ask, what were the fates of Rellik's holiday-season haul? (sorry about the sentence structure, I'm doing a Latin essay right now... if you can guess what parallel I seem to have drawn, you've probably read the Aeneid). As a Birthday/Hanukkah gift from my parents, I received the illustrious Miroslav Philharmonik software produced by the united forces of IK Multimedia and Sonic Reality. And a watch, and an amusing calendar, because how can you make music if you don't even know what time it is? How will you know when it's time for music?

If I get the full scholarship that I'm hoping against hope for, then I'll be back to tell you all of the amazing abundances of software and hardware I'll be buying.

[Arcana]

Personally, I would look into buying hardware used, and software at factory direct prices. Software is pretty easy to manipulate, have the CD's scratch, forget a reg. number and all that stuff, while hardware all that can go wrong is not having a power supply, or a knob is broken.

Though, personally, I've yet to buy anything used =\ . All the stuff came new or was given to me by my dad.

Getting back to the topic, I've gotten Edirol PCR-80, StylusRMX and Trilogy =D .

Hey, now there's another PCR-80 owner! (aside from the ubiquitous PCR-30 owners)

Is that the PCR-M80 or just the PCR-80? PCR is definitely the most cost effective option for a 61-key MIDI controller, IMHO, so you made the right choice :D

Actually not. It's one of the mid-range price models. The M-Audio Radium is cheaper, and I believe the CME one might be cheaper, too.

However it's still a nice controller and it cerrtainly does not feel like a cheap controller. Playing with the Radium, I could hear the creaks of little springs behind the keys.

[Skrypnyk]

Personally, I would look into buying hardware used, and software at factory direct prices. Software is pretty easy to manipulate, have the CD's scratch, forget a reg. number and all that stuff, while hardware all that can go wrong is not having a power supply, or a knob is broken.

Though, personally, I've yet to buy anything used =\ . All the stuff came new or was given to me by my dad.

Getting back to the topic, I've gotten Edirol PCR-80, StylusRMX and Trilogy =D .

Hey, now there's another PCR-80 owner! (aside from the ubiquitous PCR-30 owners)

Is that the PCR-M80 or just the PCR-80? PCR is definitely the most cost effective option for a 61-key MIDI controller, IMHO, so you made the right choice :D

But, you might ask, what were the fates of Rellik's holiday-season haul? (sorry about the sentence structure, I'm doing a Latin essay right now... if you can guess what parallel I seem to have drawn, you've probably read the Aeneid). As a Birthday/Hanukkah gift from my parents, I received the illustrious Miroslav Philharmonik software produced by the united forces of IK Multimedia and Sonic Reality. And a watch, and an amusing calendar, because how can you make music if you don't even know what time it is? How will you know when it's time for music?

If I get the full scholarship that I'm hoping against hope for, then I'll be back to tell you all of the amazing abundances of software and hardware I'll be buying.

Just a plain PCR-80. It was either this, or a PCR-A30. Since I got it off of Novamusik, a reading the little description off the site, they're pretty much the same thing (PCR-(M)80), they were (and still are) having a special on the PCR-80 and since I don't have a controller, decided to pick one up =)

[Arcana]

:( for me regarding the Sale. I bought mine for full price.

The PCR-A30 is the 30-key version of the controller with the audio interface, so it's probably not what you got.

[Argitoth]

FINALLY, Absynth 3 upgrade is coming in the mail. FINALLY I can say I have a true VST, a true softsynth, my first big-time commercial VST evarrr!!! Next is Battery 2.

What I really want to learn how to do is to make synthesized percussion for ambient tracks and what I love about absynth is that everything feels very "real" like I can say, "I want a sine wav set to 440 hertz and a pitch envelope with instant attack and fast decay with a hipass filter modulated by a low frequency formant wav" that might be a good formula for a spacey kick drum.

I'm feeling pretty cheesy right now.

Well, most advanced synthesizers can do this. I just like Absynth GUI. WHAT IM TRYING TO SAY IS: does anyone know some good formulas for spacey synthesized percussion?

[Skrypnyk]

:( for me regarding the Sale. I bought mine for full price.

The PCR-A30 is the 30-key version of the controller with the audio interface, so it's probably not what you got.

I meant I could have gone with the PCR-A30 or the PCR-80, and I went with the 80.

and that sucks getting it at full price D=

[sgx]

well im flabbergasted. I got an e-mail from NI basically saying "sorry, you can't do that"

damnit. The upgrade will be $80. Oh well, that means I got absynth 3 for $123. $3 over my goal. :x

Why isn't there a "slap forehead" emoticon?

Thought so. Too bad :(

[Compyfox]

Santa's late, but the money I got for x-mas went into new stuff anyway. The package is on it's way and it includes the "Steinberg Waldorf Edition".

Also known as a pack of the following Waldorf Plugins/Instruments:
- Waldorf PPG Wave 2.v
- Waldorf Attack
- Waldorf D-Pole

Would have loved to get a "hardware version" (Microwave for the Terratec EWS64) but what the heck. Sound from the 80ies/90ies... here I come. If I still have some money left for my b-day, I guess I'll either get Wusikstation, Siedlaczek Collection and/or a mbSID. Who knows... who knows...


EDIT:
Only a couple of hours after I wrote this I got a nice little parcel... in it: "The Waldorf Edition". So much for a new little "toy". ;)

[Argitoth]

GET ZEBRA2 OR OCTOPUS!!!

You know I really feel octopus should be called octoPULSE like square wav... thing... that would be so cool of a name I think.

[Compyfox]

Sorry... I'm on to Wusikstation already and I want a new hardware synth (mbSID) anyway. Time to stock up on 80ies/90ies synthy sound.

[Splunkle]

WHAT IM TRYING TO SAY IS: does anyone know some good formulas for spacey synthesized percussion?

Define "spacey". When someone says space, I always think of the soundtracks to those early space empire games, Master of Orion, Pax Imperia, etc. Generally they were preety minimal, even for a backing soundtrack. Except for fight music, of course.

Anyways, since you were talking about one instrument rather than a whole bunch, I assume you are talking about something else, which I do not grok. Maybe try lots of Verb + Chorus/Unison? Dunno. Try stuff out, I suppose.

[Argitoth]

Effects are easy to slap on, the hard part is getting the oscillators to produce the right sound. You probably know what I mean by spacey. Something strange, unidentifiable, like weird sound effects but with fast decay.

[zircon]

No, as important as oscillators are, a good sound designer can turn even simple waveforms into great sounds. Advanced softsynths have only come around over the last few years.

[Argitoth]

Zircon, when you say, "turn even simple waveforms into great sounds," I'm not sure what you mean. Taking simple waveforms and turning it into great sounds is what synthesizers are made to do. Are you not referring to synthesizer architechture?

Earlier I was talking about "formulas". Listen to the sound example at wikipedia for "ring modulation" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_modulation). It's a diatonic scale played with ring modulation set to 2500 Hz. Quite inspirational IMO. Listening to simple stuff like this always gives me ideas.

[zircon]

You don't know what you're talking about.

You're saying that you need all of these tools to create 'spacey' sounds, like advanced oscillators. You don't. Spectrasonics' Distorted Reality came out before softsynths were prominent and it's the most popular library of all time - exclusively focusing on spacey, atmospheric, dark (etc) sounds.

[Argitoth]

http://www.spectrasonics.net/libraries/distortreality2.php - The demo for Distorted Reality 2 was very nice.

Zircon, I didn't say I need many tools to create something spacey. I'm not sure what you mean by advanced oscillators. I'll take your word for it that Distorted Reality came out before softsynths were prominent, but I don't understand how it supports the point you are trying to make. I am not sure what your point is.

[zircon]

You asked for advice on how to make "spacey" sounds.

Someone gave you advice.

You rejected the advice, saying that it's all about getting the right sound out of the oscillators.

I'm saying that even with the most basic oscillators available, with the right effects and settings, you can get the sounds you want.

[Argitoth]

with the right effects and settings, you can get the sounds you want.
I figured that was your point, it wasn't obvious enough for me. It's not so much that I am rejecting his advice because I will surely use sound effects. It's more that I'm continuing the discussion, trying to get more information or something... know what I mean?

Well, I got some advice from someone at KVR saying I should use a contact mic (if that's the right term, which is a mic that records off of surfaces). Didn't know my dad owned one till today. Found out he lent it to someone who has taken it to Japan. Just my luck. :x

The contact mic will provide some good material to work with for SFX; like tapping the metal railing of the staircase or hitting a glass cup with a spoon.

[Splunkle]

Ok, Agri, I am going to have to disagree with you.

Firstly, still not sure what you mean by "spacey" sounds. But lets take something like the oringinal Dr. Who Theme, which I am fairly sure is spacey. Now it would seem to my humble ear that most of the song is rather simple waveforms (like sine, saw, square, etc) that have had layers of effects added on. Take the spooky lead thing. That sounds like a sine wave that has been filtered, and delayed, maybe verbed. Also, it helps that it slides from note to note - really adds to the spookyness of the tune.

Similarly, I think all the other instruments are made the same way - simple waveformes that have then been screwed with.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr_who#Music

Well, according to that, there was also a piano string sample used. The thing is, all this was really simple waves, using really simple effects. But by using the effects over and over, adding layer upon layer, you can get incredible effects. you have to be really good to pull this off, though. So I have to disagree with you - effects aren't easy. At least not easy to use in this way.

Perhaps we are confused here. I was talking about using effects to compeltely transform how an instrument sounds. You seem to think that it is better to get the instrument to sound like that in the first place. I think that would be the wrong approach.

As for what synths are desgined to do, yes, they are supposed to transform simple sounds into other sounds. But they do this largely with effects. Just about every synth has a filter unit, but a filter is an effect. Think back to the days of modular synthisis. There was a box called the oscillator, that outputed to a bunch of other boxes, which did stuff to the sound. I define everything that isn't an oscillator as an effect. Thus, even though a synth is a bunch of boxes combined together in a specific way, most of teh work is being done by effects. They are just integrated effects. Whether you use the filter as part of a synth or an external filter, well, both are going to filter.

So when Zircon said "Turn even simple waveforms into great sounds" he could have been refering to a synth, or he could not have. The statement really didn't really have anything to do with synths or effects at all, more to do with what is happening to a waveform.
Please correct me if I am way off base, Zircon.

You diggin' what I am saying, Agri?

[Argitoth]

I'm digging. Effects within the syntheziser are the main thing to creating the sound because all those effects can be controlled by lots of LFOs and envelopes. Absynth all by itself can create awesome sounds. Of course outside could change the sound completely.

When I say spacey I mean heavily ambient with little musical content. Lots of slow evolving pads, sound effects going in and out, sprinkled with heavily destructed percussion and a cherry on top. Also, when I think of spacey music I think of emotion. This music I am thinking of should be very emotional. When it is dark, make it VERY dark. When it is mysterious, make it VERY mysterious.

[Tyler Heath]

you do realize that (unless I am sorely mistaken and someone will correct me if that is the case) that within absynth, there is a simple waveform. absynth is basically doing all of the things that people are suggesting INSIDE IT. so the sound doesn't sound that way from the beginning - when you control everything with LFO's you're just shaping and controlling what happens to the waveform.

again, unless someone else who actually knows what they're talking about (read: not Arg) corrects me.

[zircon]

I'm digging. Effects within the syntheziser are the main thing to creating the sound because all those effects can be controlled by lots of LFOs and envelopes. Absynth all by itself can create awesome sounds. Of course outside could change the sound completely.

When I say spacey I mean heavily ambient with little musical content. Lots of slow evolving pads, sound effects going in and out, sprinkled with heavily destructed percussion and a cherry on top. Also, when I think of spacey music I think of emotion. This music I am thinking of should be very emotional. When it is dark, make it VERY dark. When it is mysterious, make it VERY mysterious.

Are you asking about sound design or writing ambient music? Or what? It sounds like you don't even know what you want, or how to ask it. You have to give more thought to this kind of thing before you start looking for answers.

[Argitoth]

I'm asking about sound design, but I realize it would take long posts of careful organization to teach something that I could already figure out on my own. I didn't put much thought into my question of many posts ago.

What I'm trying to say is: nevermind about my question.

Does anyone else have anything to contribute to this thread?

BTW: I got Absynth 3 in the mail todayeeee

[Splunkle]

One last thing before this thread moves onto bigger and better things: From your discription of the Spacey music you were going for, I direct you towards Vangelis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vangelis), particularly the Blade Runner Soundtrack., Argitoth

[Cerrax]

Vangelis kicks ass.

[Argitoth]

Thanks for that, Splunkle.

[Sixto]

I bought myself a couple of late Christmas gifts. 8)

http://tadakichi.baka.us/boogie03.jpg
http://tadakichi.baka.us/family.jpg

The SG and the Les Paul Ultra are the newest additions to my guitar collection, and the Triple Rectifier half stack replaces the Dual Rectifier half stack that I used to have. Just sucks that I still can't play any if it. :?

[Skrypnyk]

http://tadakichi.baka.us/family.jpg

Even though I can't play gutiar that well, those looks pretty sexy.

On a new note, I was able to pick up NI Komplete 3 and Atmosphere, both have which put me in debt for another 2 years D=.

[Xelebes]

Just got my late Christmas gift from the Alberta Government via prosperity cheques - my new AKG K-271 Studio Monitoring headphones.

[Argitoth]

Hmm. Who says this thread should end because of Christmas? Lets just keep posting what we get throughout the year! WEEEE :lol:

I GET THIS NOW:

http://www.emu-ensoniq.co.jp/products/digaudio/digi_gif/1212M.jpg

[Yoozer]

If the gods choose to smile on me I'm getting this Tuesday or Wednesday.

http://img494.imageshack.us/img494/373/trrack6hi.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[tgfoo]

If the gods choose to smile on me I'm getting this Tuesday or Wednesday.

http://img494.imageshack.us/img494/373/trrack6hi.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

mmmm, Korg.... yum.

[ekm]

Although it took two months extra and one lost item that Musician's Friend had to send out a replacement for (fuck you, UPS), Santa brought me a Korg MicroKontrol MIDI controller and an E-MU 0404 sound card. All I need now is some more RAM and various bits of cable and adapters to unleash my fully operational battle station.

[Argitoth]

operational battle station.
I like that term. My battle station is going to be up and running hopefully by this saturday. I haven't had a computer for over a month

[Theowne]

D:



http://www.m-audio.com/images/global/product_pics/big/sp4.jpg